Tsu Surf and Aye Verb have ignited a discussion regarding homophobia and transphobia in battle rap. Â
The conversation began after a woman called Holly was âexposedâ as transgender and mocked by some of the battle rap community when she engaged in Twitter Spaces conversation. Once it was revealed that Tsu Surf followed Holly on Twitter, the dialogue exploded. Â
Media outlet OTFMZ posted a clip from a subsequent Twitter Space hosted by Ave Verb centered around Tsu Surf. He mentions a video he describes as âsomething about Surf getting down with transgenders.â He watched the video and was not surprised by its content, rather he questioned, âwhy is this not expected?â The implication being Tsu Surf is attracted to transgender women.Â
Verb Mocks Surf On Twitter
He refers to a Tweet he wrote after watching the video. âSurf you gotta control these urges bro.. u in the middle of a war âŠâÂ
The Island God then mentions one of the replies he received. âCrazy how the tranny rumors always arise when a BLACK man starts to experience successâŠâÂ
Verb responded, âHow is it a rumor .. and he follows that page ⊠He has a choice .. since he follows it .. all the c### shows are popping up in his timeline what r u talking bout ???? He got yâall WARPED.âÂ
Aye Verb continues in the clip, âItâs just Surf following a c### show,â he said. He then said the battle rap community treats him differently to Surf. âIf Verb was following this page, it would be TMZ,â he said. Furthermore, Verb says the reason for the disparity is that he doesnât âget down.âÂ
He also compared the discussion surrounding the false narrative created in battle rap that his mother is gay, versus Tsu Surf actually having a gay mother. Â
He goes further and implies Tsu Surf is gay because, âMen donât act like that,â Verb said. âA man would never say âif yâall book Verb Iâm done, Iâm going to the other side.â Men donât say that; hoodrats say s### like that, freaks, hoesâŠthey say s### like that. Thatâs not a manâs characteristic.âÂ
He continued, âEverything making way too much sense now. Heâs a smooth looking n####. I have never seen this n#### keep a b####. Never.â Â
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Tsu Surf also responded via Twitter Spaces, hosting a conversation that included Holly. He began saying Hollyâs presence in the community is helpful to other trans individuals. âN##### really be cheese balls, real cornballs,â he said. âUntil you wake up one day and your daughter or your son has to make the decision of their life, and you donât know how to handle it because you have no knowledge of. Or you donât understand because for the last 40 years, youâve been 40 years old and f###### stupid.â
Tsunami then recalled finding out his mother is gay at 11 years old when he found her strap-on d####. âIâm sorry that some people aint have to go through that and you other m############ donât know that thereâs different walks of life.âÂ
Geechi Gotti also spoke on the topic. He said to Holly, âWe do apologize that m############ was tagging you and making it feel like it was a whole community of battle rappers or battle rap bloggers.â Â
When Holly attempted to apologize for âcoming in the space all rowdy,â Surf said she had nothing to be sorry for. He told Holly not to let anyone get her out of character and blamed the âhatefulâ comments on the insecurities of those making them. He concluded with, âWe apologize. Itâs all love Holly, from the battle rap community.âÂ
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Meanwhile, as Surf celebrated his birthday, Aye Verb uploaded a video on his YouTube channel âexposingâ the New Jersey native for following other transgender women on social media. He also accused Surf of being a hypocrite after he mocked a battle rapper for twerking in a video. The video is titled âSECRET SHOPPER TSU SURF PT 1,â suggesting Verb has more to say. He also hosted a second Twitter Space on the subject before moving on to more positive topics, promoting his role in the Tubi movie, âSuper Turnt.â
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The battle rap community has work to do when it comes to tackling hate towards the LGBTQ+ community but is making inroads. Queen of the Ring has long been a safe haven for its significant LGBTQ+ fanbase and gay battle rappers like J2 and leagues like Sara Kanaâs Prism Battle League continue to take a stand against hate.